Start Using The Assumption Method

Approach a woman like a stranger: you’ll get treated like a stranger.

I felt that a post dedicated strictly to this topic was a must, being that I’ve touched on the subject but never went in depth.

In a recent video post about the sexy-British girl, I mentioned my assumption method in the way I approach girls with a sense of familiarity and assumed connection.

I never approach strange and unfamiliar women as though I don’t already know them personally.

With this being the case: I also never formally introduce myself to any woman, neither do I ask for their names nor do I offer mines but in 5% of my introductions.

My approach and openers are structured in a way which convey “history”.

This is why in 95% of my infield videos, I treat women as though we’ve already fucked or somehow intimate presently.

I own it, I sell it, I assume it [my frame that is].

Whenever I approach a hot girl (even not-so-hot ones), my conversational starter/ice-breaker always comes off as though we’re resuming dialogue from a previous time.

Examples of my ice-breakers with random women:

“I seen someone who looks just like you. Must be a twin”.

“Let’s grab something to eat. I’ll pay now and you pay next time”.

“How was your Valentine’s? Hope you treated your boyfriend to something nice for once”.

“I like your shoes. Got a lot of taste. For that, I’m gonna let you take me out”. 😆

You get the point!

If a girl ignores my opener and she just doesn’t want to be bothered with; I’ll plow and plow to see if I can crack her cold exterior until she either walks off or I walk off [a semi-true rejection].

However the beauty is (as expected), 9 out of 10 times: I get a positive response from the girl whenever I shoot my openers in such a way.

I’m not saying standard introductions can’t work. They do work! But it becomes more of an uphill battle at times than a smoother 1.

A great analogy for the way in which I approach girls is like being granted entree in the middle of the line while other guys line up and wait for the line to get shorter: be it at a nightclub, restaurant or wherever.

Why not take the free spot being offered in front of 20 other customers?

Why not quit introducing yourself to women and quit going the tradition route instead assuming attraction and assuming she likes you opposed to approaching her as though you’re auditioning for her?

Give it a try and you may find that you have more success using my method.

However if you do already have decent success with the traditional approach of introduction: then you may not want to change it.


To familiarize yourself with the seduction-community jargon, check out the acronym and term list: PUA acronym and term list.

Don’t Be That Guy Standing Around Not Approaching + Eliminating Fear With Kenny’s Opener [+ Infield Clip]

A huge part of my skill set, and probably the biggest when it comes to random girls, is approaching them with playful banter just to get a reaction (positive or negative).

Part of why you feel nervous and anxious when approaching random girls is the very way in which you open the girl (break the ice).

Humor, and also fucking with girls, allow you to relax and feel a sense of comfort opposed to stepping to a girl with the weight of the world on your shoulder.

Your willingness to fuck around will be your biggest asset in the game.

I went out Friday night (the first Friday of the year), hit up the bar to start off 2014 the right way.

Spotted an HB while on the balcony of the bar/nightclub, opened her with my standard ballsy approach then immediately transitioned into “this girl looks just like you! Sure that’s not your twin”!?

The basic points of such openers (ice-breakers) is to convey:

* Humor

* Light-heartedness

* Non-pleasing attitude

With the sexy-ass girl in the video snippet [around the 2:22 mark], I went on to chat her up for a bit while other guys stood by hovering and idling but just wouldn’t approach.

This is a typical occurrence for men, largely because they’re stuck in their heads wondering what to say.

In that case, when you approach her in the way that I did, it’s impossible to get all nervous as to what to say.

Compared to other guys in the venue, I wasn’t even groomed (unkempt facial hair), sorta dressed down…but it goes to show that having the cojones to fuck with random strangers heavily outweighs physical appearance.

Oh- and I didn’t attempt to get any phone numbers that night! 🙂

I’m sticking to my 2014 resolution in that I will not get any girl’s phone # until I’ve slept with her, no matter how hot the girl is.

The Good-Looking Loser Chris Picks Up A Girl In The Grocery Store After Stealing Her Shopping-Cart [Badboy Game 2.0]

Limit is a limiting belief.

As your game begins to grow, 2 things will have happened:

1.) You’ll start to think outside of the box

2.) You’ll notice you can get away with anything with women

I loved this video from Chris for 4 main reasons in which newbies will learn:

1.) It shows that it takes much to actually get a stranger to get pissed @ you.

2.) Asshole game is a winner.

3.) It’s easier to pick up a girl who sees you as a douche than if she seen you as a nice guy.

4.) Getting her phone # should be last resort after you build some physical contact with the girl.

Young-hot women not only are super attracted to carefree guys, but their little pussies get wett in the presence of men who can take the bull by the horn and lead, lead, lead…

Oh- much props on the creativity also.

What a way to open a girl (break the ice) by stealing her grocery-cart!

That was original!

The thing is guys, most of you reading this are probably saying:

“Well if I do something like that; I’ll get in trouble, or she’ll kick my ass”!


My motto is, as long as you’re not in contravention of the law- then it’s all good!

The amount of shit you will get away with when it comes to random women whom you don’t even know it’s out of this world!

I recall on few past occasions, a girl would leave some items on the counter in a supermarket and I would (playfully) take up an item and when she’s ready to cash them in, she’ll notice them missing or I’ll be pretending as if I was about to open a can of whatever she had (soda) and she would go:

“Hey that’s mines”! 🙂 🙂

Me: “Just messing with you”! 🙂

Great way to break the ice by being lighthearted and fun.

It snaps people out of their humdrum-routine and give them a memorable spike in emotions for a moment.

I know you’re tired of hearing this (if you’re a regular reader), but I cant stop stressing “Touch and Hold”! At the 3:30 mark in the video after Chris and the girl get into a sorta debate about whose cart it is, he then seized the opportunity to be dominant yet romantic by taking her hand, holding it [compliance testing], then leading her to sit down on his lap while he rests his hand on her ass.

Quick note on “Congruence”. Most of what you do with women and frankly in life, gets affected by how congruent you are. Being congruent to your style allows you to get away with much more than if you weren’t. Chris’ style (bad boy) is congruent with his attitude which allows him to get away with badboy-ish behavior opposed to if he was suit and tie.

So, enjoy the very ballsy infield video from the Good-Looking Loser as he gets physical and sexual (make out) with this Vegan-chick after stealing her cart.

Back To Basics: “How To Start Conversations With Women”

It’s pretty easy to get carried away into the dark-deep oasis of dating and seduction advice while neglecting the basic framework for those who are in search of the small pieces to the grand puzzle.

I had a guy ask me the other day via Yahoo Answers:

“How do I start a conversation with this girl at college”?

Now, the question absolutely blew me the hell away :shock:…as simplistic as it was!

Reason being, I’m so used to advising guys on the advanced topics of dating and mating, that the basic stuff don’t even register anymore :(.

With that, I’ll be sharing with you the art of starting conversations with (random) women.

Proximity Is Best (For Starters)

Most guys when starting out trying to converse with women, are looking for the easiest and safest route to make this happen (socializing).

As much as I advocate doing the uncomfortable and taking the most riskiest route to success, I’ll bear in mind that most men aren’t as crazy as I am 😉 :lol:!

Alright, this is what you should do (for starters):

The nearest girl or woman to you: strike up the chat with her!

You’re probably saying to yourself: “But that’s the fucking problem; I don’t know what to say”!

I’ll address that in a second.

You’re probably also saying to yourself: “I don’t know of any stranger girl I can get close to in order to chat with”.

Just as I’d advised the guy on Yahoo Answers, that random girl could be the one seated closest to you in class and so forth.

You don’t have to physically go out of your way to get close to a woman in order to strike up a conversation.

Moments of opportunity always present themselves.

This is the case for the following situations:

* The classroom

* Cafe

* Restaurant

* Mc Donald’s

* Gym

* Work

* Supermarket

* Church

I mean, I can go on and on for weeks as to the logistical opportunities you will have had on a daily basis to converse with women who are standing/sitting right next to you.

So the stage is set, and you now know where you can meet women in order to strike up some interesting conversations.

What You Shouldn’t Say

Before I get to the good stuff [what you should say], let’s deal with what you SHOULD NOT say as a way to break the ice.

* Interview-type questions such as:

“So…how do you like the weather”?

“So…what’s your name”?

“Do you go to school in this town”?

Most men strike up conversations with such obnoxious interview-type questions which the girl has probably heard 10 times already (for the week). And frankly- she’s just not interested in hearing them again.

Sure she will answer you, but that’s just pretending to be nice instead of brushing you off like a total bitch. But she really doesn’t want to be talking to you.

You don’t want her being sociable just because it’s the socially acceptable thing to do.

You want her to be social and engaged in conversation because she sees you as an interesting guy she wouldn’t mine connecting with.

Hence, asking her rapport-building questions too early on in conversation, like “Where did you grow up”, will win you no points at all but to brand you as just another boring-generic guy who doesn’t have a clue.

“What Do I Actually Say To Start A Conversation”?

The easiest approach for guys who don’t know how to start a conversation at all, is to use Situational, Observational or Opinion Openers as we’d say around here.

Observational Opener:

As implied, an Observational Opener entails striking up a conversation based on something you’d observed about the girl or about the immediate environment.

I demonstrated this [Observational Opener] in the following video where I’d struck up a conversation with a French sailor and her crew by extension.

I approached her and broke the ice about what was so engaging her on the laptop.

Check it out [mind you: I was not “in state”, meaning I wasn’t in the “state of mine” to actually talk to anyone]!

That is a perfect example of how to start a conversation with an Observation Opener.

Another pertinent example would take place in a library or bookstore setting.

If you’re cruising the health and nutritional book aisle in your local bookstore and happen to be next to a girl who’s checking out a certain book, you can strike up a conversation with her, based on the book(s) she’s browsing:

“Hey quick question. I notice you were checking out books on juicing and natural drinks. What fruits do you recommend for juicing”?

A 3rd. example of an Observational Opener:

You notice a girl on the bus, train or in line at the cafe with an iPod in her hand or perhaps an iPhone.

“Hi quick question. I notice you have an iPhone and I was planning on getting 1 but my friend Jim told me that his crashes a lot on him and freezes for minutes. You have that experience with yours”?

It’s that simple!

Remember guys, those are just template or sample openers, so depended on the situation and what you have observed; formulate an ice-breaker based on that.

If she has a Samsung Galaxy; base your Observational Opener on that.

If she’s wearing running-shoes; base your Observational Opener on that.

Opinion Opener:

The only difference between this sort of ice-breaker and an Observational one, is that you’re getting her opinion and not necessarily based on what you’d observed from her or with her.

For instance, you’re having a hard time trying to figure out what to buy your little sister for her birthday.

You can ask a girl her opinion and her suggestion on what to get her (your imaginary little sister).

So you’re at the supermarket and a hot girl is coming down the aisle or standing nearby:

You: “I need your opinion on something real quick. My sister’s birthday is coming soon and I don’t know what the hell to get her. You’re a girl. Help a guy out please! What do girls like”?

That was also an Opinion Opener.

You’re not actually looking for her true opinion but just to break the ice with something interesting and thought-provoking.

Situational Opener:

There isn’t much of a difference with this and an Observation Opener.

Only with a situational opener, it’s based on a situation which probably doesn’t include her but something around her or yourself.

Classic example of that is a fight or general confusion in a specific area.

If you arrive at a bus stop, you can pretend as though you’re a bit lost or confused by the situation of many busses. So you’d say to a girl who’s nearest to you:

“Hey, why are all these busses heading uptown when someone told me I could catch a downtown bus here”?

You’re not directly asking her about the bussing situation, but it’s sort of thinking out loud.

By doing this, the person in earshot usually will respond.

Push comes to shove: you can simply say it to her directly to get her feedback.

Another example: Girls fighting.

If there happens to be some girls quarreling in the vicinity, perhaps at a fast-food joint, and they’re arguing over service, order, change, etc. you can say to the nearest girl whom you like:

“Are all girls like this”?

“What Do I Do Or Say After I Start The Conversation With 1 Such Opener As You’d Provided”?

Alright, you start the chat by opening via 1 of the 3 ways mentioned in the previous passage.

She engages by answering you:

Me: “Hey quick question. I notice you were checking out books on juicing and natural drinks. What fruits do you recommend for juicing”?

The girl: “Oh, I like using carrots a lot but it usually clogs my juicer filter”.

Me: “Ok what about apples, do they make good juice or I’d have to use 20 apples just to get a half cup”?

The girls: “Lol, no I use apples all the time. 5 would be good”.

Me: “So is it safe to call you a juice specialist”?

The girl: “Lol that’s a first…

You get the point here, right?

Her answers, nor yours, will not follow the exact sequence verbatim, but it doesn’t really matter what her replies are: you roll with the conversational thread which you had initiated.

You play with it back and forward for a bit, pinging off of each other.

That is the art of conversing.

Now, you don’t want to spend an entire day yapping about juicing or whatever you’d said to initiate the chat.

This is where you snip and stack or routine stack as we’d say in pickup.

Talking about the same thing for too long will kill the vibe and bore the girl. So you must cut the initial topic and move on to something else.

I’ll lay out an entire sequence below:

Me: “Hey quick question. I notice you were checking out books on juicing and natural drinks. What fruits do you recommend for juicing”?

The girl: “Oh, I like using carrots a lot but it usually clogs my juicer filter”.

Me: “Ok what about apples, do they make good juice or I’d have to use 20 apples just to get a half cup”?

The girls: “Lol, no I use apples all the time. 5 would be good”.

Me: “So is it safe to call you a juice specialist”?

The girl: “Lol that’s a first…

Me: “Ok enough about juicing. So what brings a girl like you to this section. You seem to be healthy already”.

The girl: “Just trying to be healthier. I usually pig out a lot though”.

Me: “It’s funny how life goes that the ppl who really need to be health conscious aren’t. And the slim ones like us are health fanatics”.

Ok guys, the picture is very clear when it comes to how to start a conversation, how to carry it, lead it and how to prolong it.

It’s as simple as scratching your ass :lol:!

Summarized Recap

*Avoid asking her interview-type questions as your ice-breaker.

*Ask for her opinion on something via, Situational, Observational or Opinion Openers.

*Ask her a follow-up question based on the topic at hand that you’d initiated.

*After the initial ice-breaker had exhausted itself: move on to another subject.

Now if you’re looking to progress beyond just a brief on-the-fly casual-little chitchat, then read the following post of mines to learn 1 of the easiest ways to get a girl’s phone number in less than 4 minutes.

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* Have better conversations by cutting out fillers by Socialkenny

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* Picking up girls at the gym (openers) by Socialkenny

* “Are your tits real” by Socialkenny

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