Many in the PUA/Seduction community may be of the opinion that Socialkenny loves to start shit, open old wounds which have already been healed, fan flames…
Hopefully this article doesn’t stir shit up once more, since 70 % of the coaches listed are my buddies, with half of whom I chat and do business with.
On the bright side; I’m virtually plugging all you dudes: so be appreciative!
Drum roll please!!!!!
TenMagnet (Chris Shepherd) vs Paul Janka
Back in 2008, PUA dating coach, Tenmagnet of the Love Systems dating company, went on a rampage about Paul Janka’s appearance on the Dr. Phil show, insinuating that PJ is a fat liar for claiming that he’d slept with 134 women, he doesn’t have Game, and it’s only his good looks which get him by, and that he’s a bad role model for the PUA community.
Tenmagnet (of Vancouver) went on to say that Janka clearly doesn’t understands women, and that he creeps them out. He ends it off by bashing PJ’s attraction formula model.
Paul Janka of Attraction Formula, never officially responded, but he took some indirect shots at Tenmagnet on an episode of the Pick Up Podcast Show with the Harbingers, saying that certain coach has been acting catty with soap-opera drama on blogs and stuff. Download interview part 1 and part 2.
Lovedrop promised to repay Speer, but he came to find out that LD was actually broke, yet putting up a front as if he was making money from coaching.
Speer claims he never got repaid to this day a cent of the $10,000 for damages.
He went on further to say on The Pick-Up Podcast Show, that he regrets being around Lovedrop, and that they’d poisoned the way he thinks. Download that interview Here.
Lovedrop never publicly responded.
Speer picking up girls in Miami.
LoveDrop teaching KINO escalation (how to touch girls).
Julian Fox vs Styles (Neil Strauss)
Styles (Neil Strauss)
Back in 2008, a then up-and coming pick-up artist coach out of NYC, Julian Foxx, made the ultimate challenge: he called out the PUA guru, Styles of Stylelife Academy (also the author of “The Game”), to a sarge off (a challenge at who could pick up the most, or hottest girls).
Julian said after analyzing Styles’ Game, he just could’nt believe that this guy (Styles) was capable of picking up chicks (or more than he could).
Styles publicly backed down from the challenge and deferred Julian to challenge the PUA godfather, Mystery instead.
Word circulated that Julian had AMOG’d and pulled a chick from Mystery at a bar, and walked out with her on his arms.
A feud over what really happened that night ensued. One party calling the other fraud and washed up.
[Below: Video of Julian calling out Styles for a pick-up challenge/sarge off].
[Video below: Styles on the Jimmy Kimmel show; gaming Jessica Alba].
Mystery vs Savoy
According to a top coach in the community, after Savoy, the leader and founder of the Love Systems PUA group, won the disputed settlement against Mystery, that he (Savoy) was awarded legal ownership of “The Mystery Method brand (founded by Mystery), Mystery was so pissed and hell bent on sabotaging Savoy, that he planned on hacking into the company’s records in order to get a hold of
Students’ info, in order to steal customers away from Savoy.
[Video below: Savoy and Love Systems crew on a Fox News report, doing live pick up in a bar].
This incident spun off into a vicious-internet feud between the 2 camps: Love Systems(Savoy’s) and Venusian Arts (Mystery’s), instigated by the PUA coach Sinn.
[Video below: Mystery on his VH1 Pick-Up Artist reality TV show, along with coaches Matador & Tara]
[Video below: Mystery in-field at a club showing his seduction skills].
Earlier in 2012, Cassanova Crew’s leader and founder, “JTR”, on an episode of his PUA podcast show, ranted that VK robbed him(financially) out of a business deal, used him in order to steal students over to the Project Hollywood Crew [and that’s least of the fraudulent accusations]. Download the episode Here.
This got pretty ugly when JTR alleged that VK was in rehab in pretty bad shape trying to seduce the social worker to his last breath.
VK responded by physically threatening JTR and his crew via series of voice mails.
To add fuel to the flame, VK and Speer created an online crew dubbed “The Real Cassanova Crew”, essentially tried to paint JTR’s Casanova Crew as a copycat.
[Video below: VK hanging out being outrageous as usual].
All went well (so it seemed), until the interview-release date kept being pushed back.
After the anticipated released, Justin noticed that a lot of what he said was omitted, and he thinks that Alan unfairly cut him off and didn’t give him sufficient time to dialogue.
This spun out into a whole controversy on JW’s blog as to who was at fault.
Alan eventually extended the olive branch: “Justin, I am sorry you felt that you were not given enough time to speak. I cannot say that I 100% agree with that. I ended up doing a 3-hour episode, and compared to other guests on my show, you had a lot of opportunities to speak”.
Mehow claimed that Ross is just attention seeking and looking to self promote off his name, and that Ross has been editing his (Mehow’s) guest posts on his (Ross’ site).
Mehow went further to challenge Ross to a sarge off [PUA contest at who can pick up the most chics], but claimed Ross turned down the proposal.
Ross upped the ante by making a Youtube video portraying Mehow as Hitler.
However, Mehow took the high road e-mailing Ross saying:
“There are pickup companies that don’t help people at all, have instructors with almost no experience at all, sell techniques that never ever work…yet somehow, every other post on your PUA Fraud its all about me … You are attacking a guy
with just insinuations (because that’s all you have) … a guy who’s central message is “Be
Social”. You use hypnosis on girls to get yourself laid (and from the demo you gave me when we hung out 4 years ago I believe it works).
A defiant Ross went on to bash Mehow however.
But it seems like the beef has been squashed.
[Video below: Mehow making out with a nurse at a party].
[Video below: Mehow kissing girl infront of her boyfriend].
Aaron Sleazy vs. VK Vince Kelvin
The ever so controversial Sleazy went at Vince on his blog [Picking up women with sleaze], claiming that VK could only manage to pick up fat and undesirable girls, UG’s (ugly girls), and that he creeps out the girls he approaches.
Aaron doubled down on the low-blows, claiming that the PUA heavy-weight, VK picks up underage girls (via his infield videos).
This Vince-trashing went on for few weeks, as Sleazy wrote about 3 subsequent articles dedicated to his disdain for VK.
Aaron eventually lost a lot of credibility in the seduction/seduction community for his VK-bashing.
Earlier this year on his bi-monthly PUA podcast show, PUA promoter/instructor “JTR” of California’s Casanova Crew, went at Ross of Speed Seduction pretty relentlessly, alleging that Ross was talking shit about him recently in the community.
Rippa (JTR) claims that Ross is disgruntled and pissed that he was excluded from, and not invited to speak at the PUA Summit, and decided to take it out on him.
Also that RJ kept e-mailing him begging to be a speaker for Casanova Crew.
Ross fired back saying that JTR is selling dick-enhancement pills to community guys.
Feud went back and forth between Ross and the entire Casanova Crew. However, it seems like the beef has ended (for now), since RJ had spoken at a few PUA events since.
[Video below: Ross teaching how to arouse women].
PUA-Hate vs David Deangelo
The oft-scandalous guys over at PUA Hate pushed the scandal pedal to metal when they’d posted on their forum that the PUA guru, David D of Double your dating, has a Tranny as his new girlfriend.
David D and his GF
This treacherous rumor sparked a lot of outrage throughout the community on many forums and PUA lairs: perhaps PUA Hate has went over board this time.
Compounded by all the pressure and backlash, they apparently removed the scandalous-forum post.
David D hasn’t publicly responded [the community’s outrage was enough I guess].
Many felt that PUA Hate had sunken to an all-time low with this accusation.
[Video below: David D teaches attraction]:
Speer vs Matador
After Speer’s falling out with the Venusian Arts Crew, he went at it with Lovedrop and Mystery, but the verbal beef between him and Matador was a lot more heated.
Matador said that Speer was never a pick-up coach for Venusian Arts, and he was just claiming so to bolster his credentials in the community.
Speer got pissed at Matador for insinuating that he wasn’t good enough to coach students.
[Video below: Speer shows how to do “social-circle Game” at a party]:
Sinn vs David Wygant
PUA heavy-weight Sinn, of Sinns of attraction, has been on a Twitter rampage over the years where he bashed other instructors.
During 1 of his public tirades, Sinn said that David Wygant is getting too e-mail happy, spamming him with products after products, and then sent him a newsletter trashing the PUA community.
DW replied to a blog post on Sinn’s site:
“you are very good at
making assumptions without ever speaking personally to me.
You have my email……I don’t hide on posts behind fake names. Do you want to talk and learn what I am about feel free to contact me in my office”.
The feud raged on even harder when the pick-up coach, Mack Tight, owner of E-Seduce, jumped in on the side of Sinn.
Eventually, an enraged Sinn challenged DW to a physical slug-fest: old-school style.
DW rebutted and called Sinn an immature asshole starting a disturbing beef.
[Video below: Sinn along with dating coach PUA Psych, messing with some girls during night game street pick up].
[Video below: Sinn talks about “attraction-switch theory”].
Mack Tight vs David Wygant
The drama between the PUA instructors Sinn & DW steamrolled onto Mack Tight of E-Seduce.
DW charged Mack Tight as a childish instigator and sidekick follower for suggesting he fight Sinn in an amateur-boxing match.
According to Mack, on an episode of the Barry Kirky PUA show, David claimed that Sinn could’nt look him in the eye like a real man at the ’08 PUA Summit gathering.
Mack Tight went on to rant that DW is a PUA community flip-flopper.
Some RDS members on their forum, have been calling for PUA guru Tyler Durden(RSD’s leader and founder) to sue Rob Judge.
However, Tyler surprisingly responded that he cares little about the supposed thievery, and that he wishes all PUA companies would stop bashing each other.
The feud subsequently died down, but the flames were fanned by the controversial guys at PUA Hate, as they dubbed Rob Judge as a guy who steals PUA material from everyone.
[Video below: Tyler Durden (leader of RSD) picking up chics while not in the mind frame to].
[Video below: RSD Tyler talks about the secrets of staying confidence]
Brad P vs Nathan PUA,Psych & Heartwork
Nathan PUA, PUA Psych, Heartwork
Rated the world’s best PUA coach(by many), Brad P of The 30-30 Club Forum, back in 2010 decided to take a controversial jab at the 3 rookie coaches when he accused them of treating newbie students like shit, and that Psych was never a coach @ PUA Training.
Brad P also claimed that the trios’ students were being ignored while the coaches got hammered drunk at venues and ultimately refused to refund them.
Also, that Nathan PUA roughed up a student (Forever Drake) at the PUA Under 21 Conference 2011 (for aspiring PUA’s who are unable to enter nightclubs for over 21).
Brad P pulling his authoritative strings called for Nathan PUA, Psych and Heartwork to retire from the community (at least for a stint)!
Many felt that he was out of order for policing the community.
No public rebuttal was given by either coach as to Brad P’s accusations.
PUA Psych takes over a Mexican restaurant in NYC.
Thundercat (Joseph Matthew) vs Twenty Six (Barry Kirkey)