This quick Facebook pull goes back 2 weeks after I’d added this chick.
In my method, there are generally 2 approaches I use whenever pulling girls on social media (girls whom you’d added on FB for instance):
1.) Instant attack (while having no value or social proof)
2.) Lay wait while building value and social proof
Either approach depends on certain variables such as time and even my mood at the moment.
With this MILF, my intuition told me to try to pick her up ASAP, upon adding her (as she accepted).
Here’s the full interaction with breakdown between individual screenshots.
My opener was nothing elaborate or gamey at all.
My “Game” began after the opener.
Just a quick note: even if you don’t start out gaming the girl off the opener, you must crank that shit up or else you run the risk of losing her by boring her…and being friendzoned.
My only strategy here is to avoid not coming off as a needy chode. Hence I began my initial message/question by Omitting the question mark [adding question marks tend to make you look and sound needy, eager and desperate].
Additionally, pay attention to how I opened totally formal as I said I would. But then I immediate, 2 messages later, ramp up the ballsy, forward and sexual framing to begin “Game”.
Note #2: my vibe had a bit of romantic flavor at the end of the chat.
[My messages in blue]
Screenshot 1: So the opener was very neutral and non-gamey. But I wanted to set the frame from the get go that my intentions are to meet up. Noticed how I went forward immediately after my opener.
[Her messages in gray]
Screenshot 2: By telling her “we would make good cuddle buddies, I set the sexual frame EARLY” so that she knows the deal!
She kept harping on the pic, so I told her to forget the pic. That’s what you want to do whenever the girl laments on a topic that has already had its effect. Also, I show dominance and balls by doing this. Additionally, she was so shocked that I wanted her, that she had to try to make sure that it was her whom I was checking out since there were 2 women in her profile pic.
[Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 3: “Talk to me”, she says to me. We hadn’t even been texting for 1 minute, yet she’s already full-on attracted to my vibe to the point that she says “talk to me”. What did I do to flip that switch so hard to have a total stranger chase me within seconds? My ballsy/forward yet artful approach!
I told her I was more sexually attracted (sensually was a typo) to the girl on the right (in her profile pic)…which was her. Again, I doubled down on my “SEXUAL” interest so she doesn’t get the idea that I’m looking to be friends!
[Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 4: By telling her I don’t sugarcoat, I am setting a trap for her, to where she doesn’t fault me for being sexual and forward. Hence, I strategically followed up that comment with a super-sexual line about wanting to totally fuck her. 🙂 She couldn’t have reacted negatively because I skillfully set the frame of someone who doesn’t sugarcoat. That simple trick of mines enabled me to render the girl sexually receptive to my forwardness.
Again: she wanted to ensure that I was speaking of her and not the other girl in her pic. This goes to show that she sees me as the chooser and the prize. She still couldn’t believe that I wanted her and not the other girl.
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 5: humor, humor, humor is key! I continue to set the sexual frame since I now had immunity and permission to be sexual since I told her I don’t sugarcoat. Everything pans out perfectly because of that simple comment: “I don’t sugarcoat”.
Watch how she mirrors me (my statement) by saying “hell no”, after I’d said it. Whenever someone is attracted to another, he or she often mirrors that person (subconsciously).
[Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 6: she says “hell no” to being married because I said “hell no” to being married. Again- this is called “mirroring”, when a person uses the exact wording (or body language) of another. It says that you 2 are in unison and share a connection. So this was a sure IOI (Indicator Of Interest) that I’d managed to make her attracted to me from scratch.
Whenever a woman pushes rapport in such a situation, by asking questions such as, “how old are you”, it is generally an indication of her interest. BTW, I told her I was 33 instead of 34. I sometimes shave off a year. 🙂
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 7: I honestly wasn’t trying to flatter her by saying 27. I had no idea she was in her 30’s.
My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 8: Women love guys who are straight up. I asked her that just to reinforce in her psyche that I’m a straight-up guy. This is also a common-psychological strategy of mines in deepening the attraction by leading the frame. Whenever a girl is significantly attracted to a new guy, she will tend to almost always agree with his frame, ideas, etc. Hence, when I asked if she likes guys who are straight-up, she said “yes”, following my lead.
When she told me she’s 36, what did I do? I used another powerful seduction tactic called “False Disqualifier”, by telling her she’s too young for me. By doing this, I am essentially blowing her off and rejecting her by saying that her age disqualifies her. This of course isn’t true, but it gives the girl a sense of loss and it makes her feel inadequate and self-conscious of her value.
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 9: Again, I strategically blow her off by saying I don’t find much 37 year olds sexy…in essence. In the same breath, that comment of mines made her feel a sense of “special”, that I had chosen her. So it was an indirect compliment, hence the a-okay emoji she sent. So what did I do here? I broke her down while psychologically building her up. I indirectly told her she wasn’t my type [too young]- which was a letdown. Then I indirectly gave her a compliment for making my sexual juices flow…which gave her hope.
When I said to her, “you must be doing something right”, what was I doing here? I was establishing the frame that I, Kenny, am the prize! I am the one who chooses! She’s the one who’s vying for my approval! It wasn’t a case where I was fighting to win her. I framed it to look like she was trying to win me over by telling her she’s doing something right by getting my sexual juices flowing. She laughs “haha”, which is indicative of the fact that she knows what’s up.
Again, I double down on being the one of higher value- me that is- while she’s the one chasing me, trying to win points. Do you see how powerful this is and how I got this random stranger to chase me?
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 10: I play hard-to-get by insinuating to her that girls over FB don’t get my attention easily. What does this line do? It lets her know that I am a man of higher value who doesn’t just entertain any woman…so consider yourself lucky 😉 .That’s the message I sent there. Her reaction was “WOW”. She was shocked to come across a guy who’s (so) selective, since 99% of men online are desperate losers who chase.
I gave her an indirect compliment by saying (indirectly) that she’s cute, and I could bet that lots of younger guys try to get with her. This is also indirect flattery. But again, I framed it in a way that made me the prize.
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 11: She is now qualifying as we’d say in pickup. She’s now trying to prove to me how wanted and desired she is, when she mentioned the guys who want her, and also telling me that she has a side chick in London. Do you see what’s happening here? She’s full-on trying to prove herself to me. Additionally, why do you think she’s so comfortable with divulging such info to me, essentially not a care of running the risk of looking slutty? Because she’s comfortable since I led/set the frame early that I don’t judge women. And secondly, she’s trying to prove to me that she’s sexually worthy of my attention.
With that, she basically admitted to having a BF who’s 33, and a side chick in London: which means she’s bi-, and is cheating. She’s comfortable with saying these things to me because she sees me as an authority who doesn’t judge, and someone whom she’s trying to please.
[Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 12: Do I judge her for being a girl who sleeps around, or do I applaud her on her sexual liberty? I commend her by reacting in the positive by telling her that she must have a sweet pussy since she’s so desired. Most men would’ve judged the girl negatively for saying what she said, and essentially killing their chances by judging the girl.
I bring attention to a commonality by telling her that we’re in the same boat: we both have someone. Whenever a girl tells you that she has a BF or some significant other, you always want to counter/match that by telling her you also have someone! In seduction, this is called “Pre-selection”!
[[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 13: I get straight to the point so she knows that this isn’t just some endless convo to nowhere-ville. Always get to the point after you would have built enough attraction as I did!
Additionally, you may ask yourself, “but Kenny, you keep calling her babes. Isn’t that lame and cheesy? And wouldn’t the girl think you’re needy and desperate”? NO!!! It’s all about the context! I am not referring to her as “babes” in a cheesy low-value manner. I am doing so from a higher-value position in comparison to hers. Once you have a girl significantly attracted, what would otherwise see as lame, cheesy and has the potential to get you rejected, would be nullified and interpreted a positive. Also, I was setting a forward, romantic vibe.
Anyway, I let her know that I was to be in her town that coming Saturday (2 weeks ago), and we should meet up the Saturday night.
[Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 14: by her essentially asking where will I be staying, it was a clear indication that she’s down to meet. She knowing where the hostel/guest house is, was a huge plus on the logistical front. Also, I was assertive in my plans, that she should meet me there, on that date and time. Which guy does things this way? A guy who doesn’t get laid, or a boss who has tons of options? A boss! A boss doesn’t ask! He tells!
Also, by saying “balcony”, it offsets the impression that I was trying to say, “come over and let’s go straight to my room and fuck”! Bear in my mind that a woman’s #1 fear is to be perceived an easy slut-bag. By me strategically saying, “balcony”, it alleviates the slut aspect- because after all- we’re not going to be in an enclosed place where sex could happen. 😉 “Who has sex on a balcony anyway”!? Be strategic!!!
[Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 15: “So soon”? Her sole reaction to me setting plans for ‘US’. Did she object to the plan at all? Or was she just asking “why so soon”? She didn’t object to the rendezvous plan. However, the reason she said “so soon”, was not only expected by me, but it is what we call “Token Resistance”. The girl IS down, yet she gives a little token/fake resistance in order to avoid looking too eager and too easily sold. With women, it is all about not looking like an easy slut. Therefore, she spouted out, “So soon”? Most guy being dummies, would’ve interpreted “So soon”, to mean that the girl is rejecting them or their plans. I knew better than that, that it wasn’t a rejection, but a psychological ploy in order to protect herself in the event of sex happening. Additionally- and this is real powerful and deep- a girl will give token resistance ahead of meeting up, as a way to disassociate herself from the burden of responsibility in the even that sex happens. She can always say as justification, “at least I questioned him…by asking ‘why so soon'”.
Read this stunning article of mines to get a better sense of this: Your secret ally to getting laid easily…”Plausible Justifiability”
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 16: Humor! Always learn to pepper in some humor into your overall game. Steer clear of serious tone, while erring more on the side of humor. Hence my line about nonalcoholic cider.
Question: what is arguably the biggest piece of advice I give you guys in relation to online game and text game? Always end it first!!! Hence why I fibbed and told her that my phone was dying. Anything just to end the conversation first! By ending things first (as the guy), you rattle the girl’s reality and perception of how things should be. Women should be the one telling the men that they (women) have to go. When you flip that script as I do, you simultaneously build massive amounts of attraction by essentially blowing the girl off and giving her a dose of her good-old medicine.
Also, I was angling to secure her # since there was no logical reason to continue building attraction when plans to meet were already set. She gladly obliged to coughing up the digits (as expected). I didn’t beg or ask for it like most guys of low-value do. I assumed the sale! I gave off the vibe that it was a given. So it’s much more confident and assertive to say, “Let’s”, when securing her phone number. By “asking”, by saying, “Can I have your #” [it makes me wanna punk just by typing that], it makes you sound like a homeless guy on the streets begging for spare chance.
Again- I looked to end thing by telling her “talk tomorrow”. Here’s the thing guys: you don’t have to actually end the chat at all 😆 LOL! Merely saying it [“talk to you later”] will have sufficed with the same amount of positive impact. So, a very key tip for you guys.
To further solidify her desire to meet up, she tells me to get her champagne and not wine. So, does this chick want to see me at the designated time and place set by me? YES!! Apparently! If a girl isn’t interested, she would never dare to insist or specify some aspect of the proposed rendezvous.
Over time, you will learn how to read these subtle signs and giveaways.
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 17: So, apparently, though I said I have to, “TTYL”, “chat tomorrow”; I am still messaging her. So this hearkens back to the point I made above, that you don’t actually have to end the convo at all. Just show the intent by saying so, and you could keep talking. In pickup, this subtle tactic is called a False-Time Constraint, where you falsely give the girl the impression that you’re going/leaving, only to make her panic a bit, while actually staying. Sounds innocuous but very deadly (FTC)!
I employed another 1 of my favorite and potent ploys by telling the girl that we have lots more to talk about. This technique of mines [I actually pioneered it in the pickup community] is called “Building Curiosity Loops”. There are others forms of it, but I originated this 1…at least in the seduction community. By saying to the girl that you have something to tell her, it will keep her on the hook in a state of anticipation ans suspense, wondering what it is you have in store. You’re basically forcing her to become curious…hence a “Curiosity Loop”!
How was her reaction?
Her msgs in gray]
Screenshot 18: she rejoiced by sending a puppy emoji while saying “seen”. The word “Seen”, in the Caribbean-English jargon means “I gotcha”. Hence, “seen” isn’t used as the past participle of the verb “to see” (in the Caribbean). Instead, it is used to mean “I copy that”, “I gotcha”, “Roger that”, etc.
I then strategically gave her some rationalization as to why I decide on us meeting so soon (within a week of meeting online) rather than later. What was my rationalization to her? “I don’t live here” [in her town]. I’m merely visiting. Hence, it is only logical to expedite the meetup since there’s no telling when I’ll be back in her town.
I talked about this strategy in the following video of mines.
If the girl believes to herself that you have all the time in the world to meet up; she will purposely try to put it off and drag it out as long as possible. By telling her “I’m only visiting”, it justifies my hastiness. Capiche? So, always do your best to ensure that you give the girl a sense of time is limited. Even if you have to lie to the girl in saying that you reside in another city when you truly live next door to her; DO IT!!! She won’t hold it against you (for lying) if and when she discovers that you live right in her town! In the grand scheme of things; she wants to hook up too. What is a lie if it means the facilitation of the lay? She will understand why you fibbed.
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 19: As further evidence of her wanting to meet up, she hopes that I like her down-to-Earth style.
[My msgs in blue]
Screenshot 20: Feel free to compliment a girl on her PERSONALITY! Not her looks/outer beauty! In fact, 1 of the first videos that I ever posted to my Youtube channel or anywhere, detailed my format for complementing girls by using the SPA Model of complimenting, which I’d originated over 7 years ago: “Style, Personality, Attitude”! By complimenting the girl on those intangible aspects, you’ll avoid looking and sounding like a lame ass-kisser. By me telling the MILF that I love her down-to-Earth vibe, it was a compliment on a personality trait, and NOT a physical one. Here’s 1 of my first ever pick-up related video posted to Youtube years ago! This was over 5 years ago before the revolutionary HD pickup videos and fancy annotations. 😆
[My msg in blue]
Screenshot 21: I get a bit romantic in a humorous way. This is not seen as needy and weak because I’d already set an Alpha and sex-worthy framework from step 1.
When I told her “let’s sleep”, I was again telling her “bye”, but she took that to mean that I was telling her let’s actually sleep together. Hence she said “Come”. 🙂 …as in come over to sleep. I think it was pretty clear that I’d managed to get her into a hook-up frame as I skillfully planned to do.
With that, it was all set: we were on for Saturday night which was a week away from that time.
The chat-to-pickup all took place on October 4th. We texted on Whatsapp (on the 6th).
[My texts in green]
She asked me to send her some pics so I did…even semi-nude shots.
Anyway, so the $ million question is: did we meet up that weekend (2 weeks ago)?
If I tell you, you won’t really believe what transpired.
If you follow my Facebook fan page, and or friends on my personal FB account, then you would’ve known what actually happened.
We did not get to meet up, thanks to the passing of hurricane Matthew which missed the island, but apparently knocked out cell services on my cellular network. 😦 😯 😡
I was fucking livid!!!
Here’s a status of mines from that same weekend!
The MILF was supposed to meet me at my guest-house on Saturday evening. But my network was down from 7 AM until upwards of 9 fucking PM the Saturday!!! Some people didn’t get service until the following morning!
Essentially, I got fucked out of almost sure poon by Hurricane Matthew and my cellphone-network provider! 😦 😡 😡
How fucking unlucky must I have been!
By the way, the cellular network name is Digicel (out of Australia), which is the most widely known and used in the Caribbean.
Girls on my Facebook weighed in on the frustration.
I could neither make, nor receive calls, nor use the internet. The only thing that was up was WIFI service and the other cell networks that Hurricane Matthew didn’t disrupt.
By the time service was restored Saturday night, it was already too late to contact the MILF to come meet me. I still tried…to no avail since her service wasn’t restored.
Luckily for options, I hit up another chick whom I’d pulled on Facebook weeks prior, she met up with me on the fly for drinks, I took her back to the hostel and got the bang notch.
A testament to the beautiful fact that learning to pick up lots of women is always the best route to take.
There it was that my Saturday plans with the sexy MILF got fucked at the last minute in unforeseen fashion. Yet I was able to still get a new lay that night by sheer luck since I didn’t even plan to meet the girl whom I laid that night. I’d messaged her in hail-mary fashion with my fingers crossed, hoping for the best.
All in all, the MILF is still down for seeing me eventually. I just don’t know when that will be.
The primary lesson I wish for you guys to take away from this article, is how potent of an instant-attraction builder it is whenever you adhere to my simple method of pickup!
It all seems complex on the surface, but it is super easy to field test and apply successfully within no time.
The problem is that most guys don’t expect to failure before they master the method.
Additionally, I want to point out an even more bigger aspect of seduction which I’d utilized in this online pull: FRAME!!!
It’s all about leading with the right frame and always having your goal in mind, which should be to meet up then hook up.
You set this leading frame by doing exactly what I demonstrated: get sexual and forward ASAP!!!!
By doing so, the girl doesn’t make that mistake of thinking that you’re looking to become text-pals or friend-zone buddies.
It’s all about the vibe you set from the gate. Had I come off as some wuss-bag or a guy who pretends as though he doesn’t have a cock in his pants by giving off a Mr. Respectful vibe, the girl would’ve accepted and followed that asexual frame, thus responding in a friends-only manner.
At no point was my vibe asexual, timid, chummy and cordial.
My vibe, approach and method give women permission to be slutty, because I don’t make that mistake of coming off as a guy who judges women for being sexual beings.
The underlying reason why girls aren’t open just meeting with you and fucking you, is because they are petrified of being judged by you!
You are guilty of somehow inadvertently (and willfully) giving women that impression and fear, all because you thought that it would’ve been the better approach to come off as a friendly respectable guy! Therefore, women are forced to play the super-cautious role.
By giving off the vibe of an untamed rebel who does/says whatever he pleases [as I do and did with this girl], women will reward you by showing their true colors: someone who wants to hook up!
Lastly, and in conjunction with the aforementioned, I must touch on my favorite line: being someone who doesn’t sugarcoat.
If you sugarcoat; she will sugarcoat! Don’t sugarcoat, and she won’t!
Tell the girl that you don’t do well with holding back your words. Whichever way you choose to phrase it; ensure that you get that message across ASAP: that you aren’t the type of guy who sugarcoats anything!
That simple line will give the girl permission to be open and slutty, just as how this hot MILF instantly opened up without fear, when she told me that she has a BF, yet is cheating on him with a girl in London, while her ex still wants to fuck her…or is fucking her.
What a confession!
I gave her permission to be comfortable in being slutty!
I’m only using “slutty” just to avoid deep semantics [there’s no such thing as a slut in my book].
You think she would’ve dared say what she said had I come off as this Mr. Respectable nice guy, who believes that all women are virtuous creatures to be treated as such!?
Of course not!
On a final final note, you would have seen numerous posts where I pounce upon girls as soon as they accept my friend request on Facebook; essentially having zero value to the girl since she doesn’t know a thing about me.
Other times, and equally so, you would see a protracted, methodical and calculated approach where I draw the girl in over time, build pre-selection and social value, then reel her in by commenting on her updates, and having her comment on mines by reeling her in.
Either approach is potent and yields results!
The latter approach of waiting and baiting is of course the more salient approach since the girl is allowed to get a better sense of your vibe and personality. But more often than not, in my case, it all boils down to time or lack thereof.
If there’s too much on my plate already; I’ll use the slower method.
If the girl whom I add is highly fuckable, I may decide to pounce fast!
Anyway, I think I’ve said enough for 1 article.
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