Category Archives: Social Value
Gaming my sister’s friends[social proof]
Posted by Socialkenny
This was the HB’s wardrobe for Halloween I stole from her Facebook page(with her consent if course lol.
Taking advantage of social proof with my sisters’ friends:
I’ve noticed a trend as of late with my sisters’ girlfriends:it’s way easy to game them(lol)!!!
I never game my sisters’ friends through out the years.I just seen them as off limits and having a great potential to backfire and screw up her social circle.
But lately[past month],it’s as if a friggin’ lightbulb suddenly came on in my head with the following message in bold:
“It’s a gold mine and easy ass in seducing my sisters’ friends”
Say no more(lol)!!
Many nights of struggling in field trying to game girls who are just not interested,I find gaming her friends to be a godsend.
Last night:
To further explore this theory,I pre-planned a meet up with my paternal sister at a Soca concert last night at a club.
Knowing she always rolls with HB’s(8 and better),I was super hype about the prospects(yes)!!
We met,chatted a bit in the venue(making sure that all the HB’s in our immediate circumference see us),then somewhere during the dialogue,we made it known that we were siblings[chi ching-lol].
So I wasn’t just some random- fucking Joe Blow trying to hit on her and her social circle:I was her brother,thus forcing the group to automatically respect social norms to accept me[thanks toLove System's violation theory article for this trick and tip]
With this dynamic,the guy can virtually get away with murder!
You would literally have to do something extremely over the top for these girls to shut you down(in a bitchy way).
Having your sister(even brother)as part of this social group ensures inclusion, and basically grants you immunity from( blatant) rejection.
Even if her friends are disgusted by you, and even if you looked like an ultra-jacked-up version of Shrek,her friends are obliged via social norms(which is unwritten but intelligible and understood)to not reject you.
I used to see guys do this all the time and get away with murder.But I never understood what was taking place-nor the psychology behind it.
I would say to myself,”Why the fuck isn’t she slapping the shit out of that asshole”?
Then to later find out that the leader of the group(alpha female) was his sister.
I have a guy-friend who resembles Shrek:literally!
And he has a brother who’s super popular(a ball player)who gets laid.
So whenever we go out clubbing,my friend(the Shrek-look alike),would be gaming girls off his broher’s popularity:eating his brothers’ proverbial crumbs lol!
So while 3 girls would be chatting with his brother,my friend would be grinding on one of their asses an doin overboard shit!
And none of these chiccs would recoil and pull away.
So last night with my sister’s group,I tested this model.
I shot a text message to my sister telling her to meet me near the exit on the dancefloor:and bring her friends.
They all came over after spotting me in the crowd and they all were dancing infront of me(a 4 set).So I shouted to the group,”Hey sis”!Re affirming that I’m ‘safe’.
Then I grabbed the hands of the hottest girl in her group(an HB10)and grind the shit out of her for 10 seconds lol!
Twirling around like a Whirling Dervish,I grabbed another one of her gf’s from behind and grinded her for few minutes while my sister laughed lmao!
Feeling a burst of empowerment and the liquor in my system,the sleazy side of me came out:which I never knew I had BTW lol.
If The dynamics were different where as my sister wasn’t part of this circle,I probably would’ve caught a groping charge or got stomped out by a bunch of girls lol.
Later on,I isolated the hottest one from the set,chatted with her about Facebook while we playfully tug at each other[well-me doing most of the tugging].
Such flirting went back and forth few minutes and I slapped her on her perky ass and proceeded to grim on her thighs for a bit more.
Push comes to shove,I could’ve had my sister bring her back to my crib or something but I wasn’t even thinking that far ahead to lay anything.
Conclusion:
I now realize that having a sister who’s into the social scene and nightlife is like sitting on a gold mine,as far as picking up chiccs is concerned.
This is social-circle game at its pinnacle.
Curious to know if other guys out there are privy to this concept.
Posted in Clubbing, Psycology, Social Value
Tags: Love Drop, Love Systems, Soca, Social Proof
Having too much (social)value can mess up your game
Posted by Socialkenny
This post was inspired by CodeVeroby,who made an interetesting comment on one of my last posts.
I’m not quite sure if he advocated this insight or he was just quoting Brad.Nevertheless,I personally feel that being too-high valued actually kills your chances.
I first came across this insight years ago but I can’t remember which dating guru wrote the article on it.
The guru was basically saying that,”when trying to game certain girls(shy types specifically),it’s best to dial down the value”.
What give girls the impression that a guy has too much social value(according to me)?
*Peacocking too much(being dresses too flashy).
*seeming like a celeb or rockstar.
*being overly social and too high energies.
Having too much of the above 3 qualities to your style can actually ruin your chances.
With girls of equally-high value and social status-cool,feel free to pretend to be Brad Pitt’s sidekick in his next action flick!
Girls of high value only deal with guys of equal or higher value than themselves anyway.
But with your average Jane,who’s not a rockstarette,who’s your average everyday reserved girl,the guy trying to game her should in effect lower his perceived value.
It kills me when top-dating coaches say shit like social value is a myth or it doesn’t exist.
Bullshit!!
A while back,I listened a podcast by the dating coach Speer of Speer Method,who claimed that value in pick up is Bullshit and it doesn’t exist.
That’s BULLSHIT!
If social value wasn’t real,then why aren’t HB 10′s strolling down the blocc,arm in arm with vagrants and bums?
Why do hot girls reject guys who have poor body language if value wasn’t real?
So social value is real!
Contrary to popular belief,if Brad Pitt were to approach an average shy girl,everyday girl,she will NOT automatically rip her panties off for Brad to screw the shit out of her.
An A-list celeb would actually have a hard time laying chiccs!
Believe it brodie!!!
The NY dating coach Paul Janka,appeared on a pick-up artist podcast years ago where he said this(quoting Bruce Willis):”Bruce Willis said that he actually got more ass from being an average bartender in NYC than he got as a celebrity”.
So being a celebrity i.e.having high-social value,does NOT mean you’re gonna be getting laid like a Rockstar!
The elusive WHY?
When the average girl is being seduced or games by a guy of much- higher value or a celeb’,these are the things that play out in here mind:
*”Why would he be attracted to me”?
*”I’m so out of his league”.
*”We couldn’t possibly have anything in common”.
Typical shit women say to themselves when presented with a guy of much higher status.
Self doubt comes flying in:which would lead to her flaking later on.
So the guy(or celeb) must in effect lower his value to be on equal plane with the target,which lets her see that there ‘is’ a genuine reason why a guy like you would want to get with a girl like her.
So it takes calibration to make this happen.
Look at my sticking point for example:
I love to peacocking out my ass(lol).
Whenever I go out to any venue,I roll like a Rockstar via wardrobe and accessories.
That’s cool!No harm in that.
But whenever I approach girls of lesser perceived value(shy/reserved type),sets don’t fucking hook!
They give the obligatory “hi” and all that,but it never goes anywhere most times.
If I do manage to # close,she ends up flaking.
This sticking point of mines really bothered me and fucked up my game for almost the past 3 years!
I had to dig into my proverbial vault of pick-up notes to actually figure out this flaw in my game.
The paradox is,I would have decent success with girls of same or high value:girls who were “somebody”,the bitch types,the alpha females,the ones whose ass were kissed.
But I couldn’t fucking pull a shy girl to save my life!
She didn’t have to be shy,but just the average-laid back girl I couldn’t pull(lol)!
WTF!!
In retrospect,after reviewing my seduction notes the other day,I realize the problem was that I presented too much value to the average girl.
I gave off a Rockstar vibe ,which is cool for seducing Rockstarettes/alpha females.
But it’s bad for trying to seduce the girlfriend of the alpha female.
The solution for me or for the guy who’s facing this dilemna:
When trying to seduce a girl who isn’t a social-butterfly:don’t come into the set too high energied.
This should be common knowledge by now.
You should always calibrate your tone and vibe to match that of the girl whom you’re gaming.
If she’s high energied,which implies high status among her peer group,you the guy must come in high energied also to match her.
Likewise,if she’s shy,reserved,laid-back,etc.,tone down your energy.
This shit is key bro’!!
Simple mistakes and miscalibrations like I mentioned can mean the difference between getting laid and jerking off for the next year.
I’ve been there over the past 2 years and a half.
Once again,thanks to CodeVeroby for mentioning this in the commentary on my last post.











