Q & A of the week:”When should he call”?

Ok guys,I promised a Q & A segment to my blog,where I would be asking some of my female Facebook friends questions on dating.With their consent of course[Kenny does have etiquette at times LOL],I’d be posting a pic’ with a fake name[Fuck off stalkers!!].The questions were asked in real time via Facebook chat BTW(interesting),so these are women I generally chat the shit with.

Every guy who dates or picks up chics, has heard about the ’3-Day Rule’,where the guy shouldn’t call nor contact the girl before 3 days of getting the digits.For obvious reason of not looking desperate.Being a curious bastard as I am,I wanted to get a general feedback from every-day women on this subject.Here we go.

T.T.

Cool-sexy chic I met days ago via mutual friends on Facebook,so I threw her in the fray.

Q.If a guy was to get your # and he calls the same night,would you see that as desperate?

A.

“Nope.Not really.Says that he’s interested”

Q.Ok cool.Should he wait to call?

A.

“Well to me:it doesn’t really matter but it shows that he’s interested.But others have their own opinion”.

Me:Some women say that the guy would look desperate calling the same night.

T.T.

“Unless he reaches the point where he’s just calling str8 then that’s another story”.

KW

KW’s a hot MILF I’ve been Facebook friends with for a while now.We probably have like 40 mutual friends,so she’s essentially in my social circle(online at least).

Q.Ok,if you gave a guy your # and he calls the same night,would you think he’s desperate?

A.

“No”.

Q.So how long should he wait to call?Few days or what?

A.

“No just call her”.

Me:”Some women say that it looks desperate to call the same day.What do you say”?

A.

“No it’s not desperate…what’s the difference if he calls the same night or 2 weeks lata”?

Miz

Cute Bronx chica I’d met on POF dating site.

Q.If you give a guy the digits and he hits you up the same day/same night,would you say thats’ needy and desperate?

A.

“Umm no not desperate but I need to keep my eyez open lol”.

Q.Lol,so when should he call?

A.

“Maybe that same week.But can definitely text show that he’s interested”.

Asian-Queens,NY

Cool Asian girl I met on POF too.She’s quite interesting with her insights.

Q.If you give a guy your # and he contacts you the same day or night,would that seem desperate?

A.

“Yea.Why”?

Q.Ok,but why would that be?

A.

“Maybe he just wants a booty call”.

Q.So generally,how long should the guy wait to contact you to not seem desperate for a booty call

A.

“Umm maybe a week not sure”.

Findings & Conclusion

Wow-that was interesting to find out where women stand(supposedly).

We in the seduction community, already know that what a girl wants and expects LOGICALLY, isn’t what she wants,expects or goes for EMOTIONALLY.

Anyway,the most interesting finding here(for me),is that most of the women I surveyed, do NOT think it’d be needy and desperate to call the same day/night of getting the digits.

Yet it’s still a catch 22 though with going for what a girl says and what she actually responds to.

But I like the point made by Miz(the Bronx chica) about the guy texting same day/night to show that he’s still interested.
That’s key!And I happen to do that shit most times.Rather running the risk of the girl forgetting who you are,it’s worth it sending a short text with built-in humor(based on the initial chat).

The hidden beauty of this Q & A post is that it could be used as an opinion opener in street approaches or wherever.Cool shit right?

BTW,I got the concept(indirectly) for doing this from my boys Solo and Drew,who’s doing an interview-type thing in NYC for his blog via Twitter.

Guys-stop rushing for her phone #!

2 minutes tops.Hope it’s worth it!

All through the bloggersphere,I’ve been reading tons of articles on #-closing,how to get her #,etc.Fairly decent techniques by the way.

But the one thing I never really see addressed is When to.When to go for the # exchange or # close.

Greatest mistake we men make while going for her # is….[let me et a drum roll]…Going for it prematurely!

Guys make it seems like a fucking sprint opposed to a marathon.The faster you get her #,the less attraction she would’ve had for you.So instead of turning this into an ‘in & out’ feat.You should be patient and casual about the # exchange.

This is the classic cause and effect for the throw-away number phenomenon.

For those who arent too privy with the term:a throw-away # is a phone # that the target usually gives the guy without any intention of ever speaking to him.

So to avoid throw-away numbers,stop being in a hurry to get her #.Slow your role Superman LMAO!

EXCEPTION

The only few instances where a guy should try wrap it up soon as possible,is in the follow cases:

1)The girl is visibly in a rush.

2)She’s trying to catch a bus/train and doesn’t have 15 minutes[although a seasoned PUA would get her to forget about catching the next inbound transport].

3)You-the guy,is extremely busy and need to go.

Those should be the only exceptional cases where you go for a quick # close.Instances where you’re not guaranteed to see this girl again.

When NOT to # close hastily:

Ok,this is another grave mistake I see guys make regularly.How do I know?’Cause I used to do that shit LOL!

…”Going for the # when you’re bound to see the chic again”.

Let me elaborate!

Guys-if you’re almost sure,or at least 50% guaranteed to see the target again in the near future[tomorrow for instance]:Do not pine away for her damn number!!!

Perfect Examples:

*I chat up the smoking-hot bartender at X-Tra’s bar(the bar I generally frequent).I will not go for her # after our first initial chat.That’s too fucking soon!Too soon for a girl I’m most likely to see the following week at this same bar.So let the tension build!Let the attraction grow by NOT asking for her # like the previous 20 guys did-and got shut down.

*HB8 at the neighborhood bodega or supermarket.Why go for her # at first sight when you’re most likely to see her again the following day you go pick up some rubbers or beer?

*Cashier at the bakery,teller at your bank,your professor,teacher,female pastor(lol),sister’s hot friend…Those girls who you’re most likely to see again,do NOT go for the # on the first chat.

Let the tension build

When you don’t ask a girl for her #(a girl you’re bound to see again in days),this is what goes through her mind:

*He’s different than 99% of the losers who beg for the digits like there’s no tomorrow.

*He must be high value/gets a lot of girls/#’s[so the pre-selection switch is automatically flipped].

*Why isn’t he asking for my #!!?

That’s the state and frame you want her to be in.You want her to wonder why?

You want her to assume that she isn’t your type or out of your league(below it).Once she’s psychologically engaged and invested,the game is half way over!You’re essentially “WINNING”,as Sheen would say lmao.

“WWKD[What would Kenny do]“?

[This is what I would do,pertaining to gaming a girl I'm sure to see again.]

*New girl behind the counter at the Internet cafe,or cashier at my bakery.

*I’d chat her up for the first time[attraction material as usual].Keep it brief and go.

*Next day or two,same routine.Building attraction.

*Next time-same routine.

*I’m building the tension and attraction over each encounter.Depending on how good your game is,you should’ve been building sexual tension also via flirting,banter and playfulness.

*At this point in the game,she would be open for me like a can of tuna.Ripe for the picking.

*Then I go for the GUARANTEED # close.

There’s no way in hell that this chic would reject my #-close attempt at this point!It’s as sure as the sun friggin’ rising at dawn!She’s wanting it an expecting it.And don’t be surprised if she initiates it by offering the # instead.

There’s no way in hell she would flake neither on the meet up.

Flaking happens 90% of the times, because of the lack of attraction from the guy # closing too fast.

Why would she answer your call or meet up with you when she doesn’t even remember who the hell you were!!?

So fellaz-take it slow!You’re only gonna mess up your chance and make it an awkward situation for both of y’all by rushing for her #.

There’s no worst feeling like having to enter the store, where the girl works who flaked on you twice or never took your calls.It’s an awkward situation,and there’s no way to recover from it to salvage it.

So,if there’s no chance in seeing her again:by all means,go for the number as fast as logistics & time allow.

But if you WILL see her again:take it slow and build attraction.It cannot hurt your chances at all!It can only increase it!

9 out if 10 times,the bartender is gonna be there next week.The girl in class will be there tomorrow.The bank-teller will be there next week.

I’m out!Stay Alpha!!!

No need being this guy.